MINUTES OF MEETING
NORTH SPRINGS IMPROVEMENT
DISTRICT
The regular meeting of the Board of Supervisors of the North Springs
Improvement District was held on
Present and constituting a quorum were:
Salvatore J. Mendolia
President
Steve Mendelson
Secretary
Also present were:
John Petty
Manager
Dennis Lyles
Attorney
Jane Early
Engineer
Isabello Rodriguez
CH2M-Hill
Ed Flavin
CH2M-Hill
Kevin Alvarez
CH2M-Hill
Cory Johnson
CH2M-Hill
Sean Skehan
CH2M-Hill
Rob Hungate
CH2M-Hill
Randy Fredericks
Field Supervisor
Doug Hyche
District Staff
John McKune
District Staff
Warren R. Craven, Jr.
TOUSA Homes
Marie Ferngren
FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS
Roll Call
Mr. Petty called
the meeting to order and called the roll.
SECOND ORDER OF BUSINESS
Approval of the Minutes of the February 8, 2007
Meeting
Mr. Petty stated each Board member received a copy of the minutes of the
There not being any,
On MOTION by Mr. Mendolia seconded by Mr.
Mendelson with all in favor the minutes of the
THIRD ORDER OF BUSINESS
Discussion of Capital Improvement Program
Mr. Petty stated
the engineers are doing the preliminary work but I believe they are prepared to
delve into the bureaucracy of obtaining a permit for expansion of our Water
Treatment Plant. Many new homes are
being built and it is time to build up the plant to handle the
flow.
Mr. Skehan
stated we have been working closely with Mr. McKune and Mr. Petty on some of the
preliminary issues tied to how you are looking to the future for your water
supply. Your Water Use Permit,
which is the cornerstone for any utility, expires in January of 2008. It has been permitted for 6.4 mgd. For any possible expansion, you are
looking at potentially adding another 3 mgd to your needed capacity and
allocation. The key is your
allocation, which will be coming from the Water Management District, as it has
in the past.
Unfortunately, where you are and some of the other utilities are, in
looking into the future, SFWMD has gotten a tight grip on small utilities in the
lower east coast. What was possible
in the past from a permitting standpoint and the ease of permitting is not
possible or feasible in the future.
What used to be a fairly simple straightforward process has now become a
complex process manifesting itself more and more into the future because you
will have to deal with getting more water out of the ground. SFWMD is beginning to implement rules
and not tying into the physical component of how the utility will be
operating. There are governmental
and legal aspects in trying to get this additional water as well as stormwater
issues, which will tie into this in the future.
The District prided itself over the years since its inception, of being
able to stand alone and be an independent provider to get to where you currently
are. SFWMD pushed so many utilities
to this regionalization concept.
What we think is going to be necessary is standing up and saying, “We
want to be able to find out where NSID can go to pursue their resources
independently and be able to do so for the next 20 years. This is where many of the Water Use
Permits are going. However, with
discharges going into the
Mr. Petty stated we talked over the years about how SFWMD was going to
tax the taxpayers in the state because of their loss in the courts over their
handling of the
If we do not have access to the Biscayne Aquifer and this good water
source, we must consider an alternative water source for our water
treatment. The one being pushed by
SFWMD is the Florida Aquifer, which is a dirty water supply; made up of
chlorides and dissolved solids. As
a former reverse osmosis treatment operator, I would not want to tap this
aquifer. Even with the membrane
process, you are looking at high pressure, heavy following, and heavy
pre-treatment style water before it can be delivered to our residents. I project cost increases of 100% or more
to our residents by using this aquifer.
This is why we asked the engineer, after hearing these rumors, to talk to
the SFWMD and begin the preliminary conversation of quickly bringing a capital
improvement program to the Board.
Mr. McKune, the engineers and I personally spoke to SFWMD. There is not a simple matter to resolve
by any stretch of the imagination but you have a good team and are the ones to
resolve it. SFWMD said to
us:
“We are going
keep our water consumption exactly where it is because the
This is a balancing act.
They are saying the
We request the Board consider authorizing the engineers to start the
capital improvement program through a two part process. The first part authorizes them to apply
for a Consumptive Use Permit in an amount not to exceed $12,000. At next month’s meeting, the engineers
will provide a work authorization to the Board on a capital improvement program
covering the water plant expansion, any regionalization and any other water
balancing acts. Tonight we only
want the Board to authorize the engineers to start the process of obtaining the
Consumptive Use Permit for our water plant, which we need to have by January of
2008. It typically takes three to
four months to receive approval of the permit under normal conditions. However, since these are not normal
conditions, we wish to start as soon as possible.
Mr. Mendolia asked do we have any legal
ramifications?
Mr. Lyles responded no. This
is strictly an engineering exercise.
Mr. Petty said they are in the process of changing their rules and
tightening their requirements. It
is going to be difficult in the future if they pass this rule and it does not
apply to us or similar districts to get water treated and turned into potable
water. Moving now and not waiting
is to the District’s advantage.
Mr. Mendelson asked did you say $9 billion?
Mr. Petty responded the last I heard, SFWMD’s cost estimates were around
$9 billion.
Mr. Mendelson asked how will NSID be affected?
Mr. Petty responded we cannot touch the water table one more inch and
will have to use the Biscayne Aquifer.
This will cost our residents double of what they are currently paying for
water. SFWMD is not asking for a
contribution to the $9 billion, they are trying to enforce rules moving them
incrementally forward. They do not
care what it costs us. Their
concern is applying credits to the problem they have, not to the problem we
have.
Mr. Mendelson asked has the District been following the law as far as
this project?
Mr. Lyles responded yes.
Mr. Petty stated we have been good partners with
SFWMD.
Mr. Mendelson stated it seems like
Mr. Petty stated I think SFWMD is dumping on us. If we cannot solve this problem locally,
we will have to go to
Mr. Lyles stated SFWMD is a regulatory body covering the southern part of
the State of
Mr. Mendolia stated Mr. Petty is saying we will be paying
double.
Mr. Petty stated we are not the only utility in
Mr. Mendolia asked do we have a choice to say “no”?
Mr. Petty responded I believe you have a choice; but one based on policy,
not engineering.
Mr. Lyles stated you have the choice to say “no”. You will incur expenses on the items Mr.
Petty and the engineers are recommending but in the long run, you are probably
going to have greater expenses if you wait for SFWMD to do whatever it feels
like doing. You are the policy
makers and always have the ability to direct staff to do
something.
Mr. Mendelson stated it will be a good idea to implement this
now.
Mr. Lyles stated correct.
Mr. Petty stated whatever course of action we take in the future, this is
a step we recommend taking now. If
we reach a problem going through the rule process, which we believe to be
unreasonable or unfounded, the engineers were instructed by staff to bring this
back for consideration by the Board.
If they think policy direction is necessary, you can have District
Counsel look at this. However, if
you feel this is a political matter, you should be given the opportunity to
consider it. The alternative is to
comply. If we hit anything we
consider to be unreasonable, we will come back to the
Board.
Mr. Mendolia stated I am thinking about the residents. If they hear what we are saying, you
will have a riot.
Mr. Petty stated this comes from SFWMD and their issues. However, I agree with you. One of the reasons we entered into a
contract with a public relations firm is because of what we said is possible in
the next year or two. It came
earlier than we thought. You are
starting to see ads on TV where kids are singing, “Save our Swales”. This is the beginning of the concept of
educating the public on the water resource and its value so as these costs come
in, people accept them more readily.
Our Drainage District is going to be referred to as a pollutant
source.
Mr. Mendolia asked is there any way we can have a referendum where people
can get involved? If we make a
decision like this, everyone is affected.
Mr. Petty responded yes.
Your manager had those same thoughts and is anxious. If SFWMD pushes this issue in their
meeting with us eight days from now, I will have to come back to the Board to
see if you wish to put out information to the residents to get their
input.
Mr. Lyles stated if you have a town hall meeting where people can come to
complain about what is happening when SFWMD is not in the room; all you are
doing is to make the District look like the bad guys. We are trying to be the good guys and
stopping things from happening, to the extent we can. I feel Mr. Petty’s approach of having
the meeting, obtaining concrete information and putting the information together
and providing to the residents so they know what is going on, will make the
situation better.
Mr. Mendelson stated I am also looking at this from a health aspect. We should implement this
now.
Mr. Lyles stated we are not going to help them implement the plan to
cause these outrageous price increases.
We are trying to get our Consumptive Use Permit renewed; taking into
account we are a growth area as opposed to a built out area. Pushing this process as hard as we can
and as fast as we can is our best first step. If it looks like they are not listening
to us, we may have to let our residents know we have this problem and what the
consequences are but we are working to make it have a different
ending.
Mr. Mendolia stated I agree.
Will we look at this again at a future date?
Mr. Lyles responded you are going to hear about this for the next couple
of months.
Mr. Mendolia stated I always worry about the residents because they are
going to come to the next meeting and scream and holler.
Mr. Petty stated we are not proposing anything outside of our master
plan. The Consumptive Use Permit
will allow us to use the Biscayne Aquifer for high quality
water.
On MOTION by Mr. Mendelson seconded by
Mr. Mendolia with all in favor the engineers were authorized to apply for a
Consumptive Use Permit in an amount not to exceed $12,000 through a work
authorization to be provided to the Board at the next meeting.
FOURTH ORDER OF BUSINESS
Consideration of Resolutions
A.
Resolution 2007-2 Declaring Tangible Personal Property Surplus
Equipment
Mr. Petty stated these are the tangible personal property items we turned
over to the District. As you
recall, our contract calls for the HOA to be the managers and supply all the
internal elements; including the furniture and exercise equipment. We have these items in a warehouse. This resolution allows us to have a
surplus sale to bring money back into the District if there is any value for
this equipment. If there is no
value, the item will be discarded.
You need to handle this as an asset of the
District.
Mr. Mendolia asked is someone evaluating the value?
Mr. Petty responded it is stated in our bond, after eight or nine years,
we are off of the depreciation schedule.
I looked through the list and feel we are going to get a good
response.
Mr. Mendolia asked is there a published list?
Mr. Petty responded there is a list on our website. We also placed an advertisement. It will be run as a silent
auction.
On MOTION by Mr. Mendelson seconded by
Mr. Mendolia with all in favor Resolution 2007-2 Declaring Certain Tangible
Personal Property Surplus Equipment and Authorizing the District Manager to Sell
or Dispose of Said Equipment as Expeditiously as Possible and Providing for an
Effective Date was adopted.
B.
Resolution 2007-3 Relating to Membership into the
Mr. Petty stated this item will be pulled from the agenda. We allocated funds in the budget for a
Florida Retirement System, however, District Counsel told us to take another
look at the program. The cost of
the benefit does not bother me but the cost of following a bureaucracy and their
new rules, may get us into trouble.
The 9.75% pension they currently offer and the defined benefit package
does not bother me because we are going to have to be competitive. However, I do not think we want to
participate in a program dictating so many policies and procedures to where we
may have to add staff just to address those policies and procedures. In these forms, they ask for an
administrator of the program to be defined and a Registered Agent. Instead of asking for this upfront, they
should ask when I tell them how many people I have and what they make. They want this in the whereas
clauses. I want to table this item
until we can find something less rigorous but having similar benefits. We thank District Counsel for his
suggestion.
Mr. Lyles stated it is a big change to put all of the employees into the
Florida Retirement System. It
looked like a good change because it is a bigger plan but there are some strings
attached to it, which staff needs to look at before giving their final
recommendation. We may come back
and say this works but at this point we want to examine it further.
FIFTH ORDER OF BUSINESS
Consideration of Award of Contract for Heron Bay Wetlands Mitigation
Bank
Mr. Petty stated we talked to the Board in the past about this item. Eight years ago, there was a Broward
County requirement for the developer to install certain eco-friendly plant
materials such as birds and fish when they build water facilities, which they
were in the process of doing in partnership with us. From a water management perspective, as
part of our drainage and flood control, this is not a bad thing to do. We went along with it and when
Westinghouse turned their facilities over to the District, we accepted it and
took over the management. We then
hired a contractor because our guys are flood control specialists and not
aquatic plant specialists. Although
they can kill the plants fairly well, growing them was a different story.
At the end of nine years, we discovered Westinghouse never received a
permit sent to them in 1996 and never fulfilled the permit requirement. The mitigation program they thought they
complied with in the mid-1990’s was reviewed again. As a result, they had newer and stiffer
requirements. We looked at the
mitigation areas and discovered we lost half of the plants. Typically you lose 25% of the plants as
water levels go up and down and spraying for algae causes a burn zone. Our budgets did not include a planting
program over the last 10 years. We
expected to lose some plants but we were losing plants in the round areas, which
meant the maintenance company was not doing their job. We have been working with WCI on their
conforming to
Mr. Mendolia asked is this an additional duty for
him?
Mr. Petty responded yes.
From a staff perspective, we expect Mr. Schooley to build up his staff to
handle this. He will do this by
contract as reflected in the current bid specifications. The bid specifications submitted a few
months ago came back at a much higher cost. Our engineers worked with WCI and their
engineers on this issue and re-submitted.
This time the bids came back as estimated. Staff supports the engineer’s
recommendation for the lowest responsive bidder to be awarded the contract to
repair and extend the mitigation area and provide a two year maintenance
program. These items are considered
part of the budget and monies are available.
Mr. Mendolia asked is this an increase from the last
contract?
Mr. Petty responded it actually decreased, probably because the
contractor is installing the plants.
Mr. Mendelson stated we are only going to benefit from it.
Mr. Petty stated it makes the water management system look natural and
aesthetically pleasing while it is a beneficial process.
Ms. Early stated I agree.
Miller, Legg investigated the lowest responsive bidder thoroughly because
I am not familiar with them. They
worked with the contractor on other projects and were comfortable with
them.
On MOTION by Mr. Mendelson seconded by
Mr. Mendolia with all in favor the contract for the Heron Bay Wetlands
Mitigation Bank was awarded to Arazoza Brothers Corp. in the amount of
$503,802.02.
SIXTH ORDER OF BUSINESS
Consideration of Change Orders
A.
Change Order No. 6 & Final – Florida Sewer and Water, Inc. for Banyan
Isles and Sable point for a Net Decrease of
$125,243.94
B.
Change Order No. 7 & Final – Florida Sewer and Water, Inc. for Banyon
Isles and Sable Point for a Net Decrease of $12,890.52
Mr. Petty stated these change orders are for two segments of the same
contract. The engineer recommends
approval, subject to administrative review.
Ms. Early stated on the last page of the change orders; you will see the
split for the WCI portion and NSID portion. This is a decrease to both parties. WCI had an increase on Change Order No.
7 and NSID has a decrease.
Mr. Petty stated the contract amount is less than what was approved at
the last meeting, due to these change orders.
On MOTION by Mr. Mendelson seconded by
Mr. Mendolia with all in favor Change Order No. 6 & Final – Florida Sewer
and Water, Inc. for Banyan Isles and Sable point for a Net Decrease of
$125,243.94 and Change Order No. 7 & Final – Florida Sewer and Water, Inc.
for Banyon Isles and Sable Point for a Net Decrease of $12,890.52 were
approved.
SEVENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS
Consideration of Work Authorization No. 172 for SFWMD Permit Modification
– BMP Requirements
Mr. Petty stated
the recommendation from the engineer is to be authorized to work on this
matter. We believe it is justified
and recommend it. We wanted to talk
to the Board about the implications.
This issue came up at the last meeting and the Board authorized an
extension as we wanted to discuss it further. SFWMD provided us with a letter for us
to respond to within 90 days. We
asked for the extension but have not been grated it to date, although they are
meeting with us in less than two weeks to discuss and acknowledged they received
the extension before the 90 days expired.
We are working with our engineers on the impact. SFWMD is telling us if we pump to our
permitted outfall; conservation area 2A, the only way they can allow us to do so
if we comply with the recent water quality efforts, which our engineers tell us
is impossible to do. We cannot
possibly reduce the nutrient loading in the canal system. This means we have to look for an
alternative discharge area. NSID,
being at the end of the development cycle in Broward County, was not allocated
any space in the C-14 or Hillsborough Canals. The only way we are allowed to pump to
either canal is if other permittees are not pumping their full load. Therefore, we only get to discharge
water in NSID under a rain event if someone is not using their
allocation.
Mr. Mendolia asked how will we know?
Mr. Petty responded this is why we feel this is an extremely serious
issue for the District and we sent a letter to SFWMD with our findings. This means, there may not be drainage
available to existing homes. When I
asked SFWMD the question, they said we should be good for at least the next
couple of years.
Mr. Mendolia asked how will the residents react?
Mr. Petty responded I thought it would be nice to tell the homeowners who
bought their homes this year their drainage rights are good for at least two
more years. This is why we are
taking this matter seriously. Since
all water is now being combined, whether it is stormwater or coming out of the
Biscayne Aquifer or bleeding over from the conversation area through the levy,
we need to start the permitting process.
Staff will meet with SFWMD to listen to them say, “This is no big deal,
you are good for a year or two” and see if they can expand this out three or
four years. They think the
stakeholders include everyone who lives in Broward and Palm Beach Counties. I do not know how they became part of
the NSID system because I have not seen any money coming in from them but I am
willing to send them a bill. I
recommend the Board approve this work authorization because this will be an
expanded work program from what BMP had stated in the past. This is a bureaucratic process in the
cost of doing business with the SFWMD to be a good
partner.
Mr. Mendolia asked do we have time to consider this work
authorization?
Mr. Petty responded the engineers have to come back to us with specific
tasks and authorization for funding.
This work authorization gives them the authority to work on this
modification and then come back to you.
Mr. Mendolia asked do we have the funds?
Mr. Petty responded yes, for the $5,000 one but I will look harder for
funding for the $50,000 one.
On MOTION by Mr. Mendelson seconded by
Mr. Mendolia with all in favor Work Authorization No. 172 for CH2M-Hill to
Implement BMP Requirements for the SFWMD Permit Modification in the Amount of
$5,000 per month for six months was approved.
EIGHTH ORDER OF BUSINESS
Staff Reports
A.
Manager’s Report - Short
Term Financing
Mr. Petty stated
in regards to our efforts to look at short-term financing to fund the completion
of the tennis courts, as the Board may recall, we had $250,000 in our
construction account. We looked at
the demand and built tennis courts because there was a strong demand. We are looking at short-term funding for
this issue, which we do not think is going to be a problem. We looked at the budget and it should
fit in nicely and be competitive.
As a matter of fact, we just spoke with WCI and even with this short-term
note for the tennis courts, our rates for the commons should still be below what
they are charging for the new clubhouse.
Mr. Mendolia asked when are the tennis courts going to be
completed?
Mr. Petty responded I never thought it would take this
long.
Ms. Early stated they had a difficult time obtaining permits from the
City of Coral Springs.
Mr. Mendolia asked why?
Ms. Early responded they wanted modifications to the permit. When it was approved by the Zoning
Department, they did not tell the Building Department. When the builder went down there, he was
told they could not get the permit until zoning approved it.
Mr. Petty stated this is the process you have to go through in Coral
Springs, which reached the zenith of their building era a long time ago. We are getting the scaled down version
of the process. The days of getting
a seven day turn around are long gone.
The engineers are constantly trying to push the issue. I want to see them dig up some
dirt.
Mr. Mendelson stated I want to see a sign saying they are
done.
Mr. Mendolia stated if you need any assistance dealing with the City of
Coral Springs, let me know. I had
good success with them. With the
last house I built they were knowledgeable, honest, fair and quick. I thought we had the
funds.
Mr. Petty stated we do.
Mr. Mendolia stated you said it cost $741,000 for the tennis
courts.
Ms. Early stated there is $250,000 in the remaining bond
issuance.
Mr. Petty stated in the bond issue for the commons, which we need to put
into a construction program for a capital asset. The tennis courts were perfect for
this. This amount covers a third of
the contract. We need to cover the
other two-thirds. Keep in mind, the
commons is a small separate assessment area from the rest of North Springs and
their books have to be separate. We
need this funding in our budget. We
went through those reserves in the repair and remodeling of the facility, which
cost $600,000. We used up most of
our reserve, if not all of it and I do not feel comfortable going further into
our reserves. What we are looking
at doing is getting short-term funding benefiting the District. We have been working on this for other
entities and brought it into its own under NSID.
I have a commercial note with SunTrust bank. It is a revolving Line of Credit, which
gives us the ability to draw small amounts of money; $5 million or less in less
than 30 days for periods of five years or less. District Counsel can tell you the
reasons why we have those limits.
This is based on a percentage of the LIBOR rate, which is a standard
currently used. The rate currently
brought to us and in this agreement makes us better than their best commercial
customer, which we expected to be.
We think this is a good instrument, which gives us great
flexibility. It saves the District
from asking its residents to fund reserves for a possibility which may or may
not occur, instead of using this Line of Credit available to them. In this case, we wish to use some of
this money to complete the tennis courts.
It is going well as we are talking with the banks, finalized the language
and we are ready to provide to District Counsel for his review. At the next meeting, we hope to have a
finished document both staff and District Counsel can recommend to you for
consideration.
Mr. Mendolia asked can we approach WCI and request to a donation towards
the tennis courts?
Mr. Petty responded we spoke to WCI last week about NSID. As the Board is aware, many of the
original members are gone and most of the employees are there less than a
year. We spoke to Mr. David Wolfe
who has been there four or five years.
According to Mr. Wolfe, the tennis courts were not perceived to be of any
marginal benefit to Mr. Wolfe’s efforts, in particular to the new clubhouse,
which he felt was going to end up taking quite a few of the residents. I do not agree. I think our facility currently looks
good and the last time I was there, the residents were thrilled with the tennis
courts and using it extensively. It
adds a good flavor. The bar looks
wonderful and inviting. He was not
interested in the additional tennis courts. At one time, there was a gentleman from
the west coast who came to our meetings but he is no longer with
WCI.
Mr. Mendolia asked is he not in favor of the tennis
courts?
Mr. Petty responded he was of the opinion the current model applied to
the commons for its management to be better used. He has a vision of what it may be used
for, which is more akin to the Tennis Center in Coral Springs and opening it up
to tournaments to bring in outside money.
I told him we are amenable to discussing with him any and all such
options as long as residents were in favor of it. We have not asked them to
contribute.
Mr. Mendolia stated they should contribute because those tennis courts
are a great asset to WCI. When
people look at houses, they see the tennis courts. The new clubhouse will not have any
tennis courts. They will be an
asset to the current residents, future residents and WCI.
Mr. Petty stated we talked to Mr. Wolfe about Funding Agreements of the
subdivision lines and how we wished to come to conclusion on this matter and do
a one time payment to clear up the last 10 years worth of agreements. If we have excess funds after this
calculation is done, they may or may not be applied to WCI. We are not happy with the continued
relationship we have with WCI after we paid and are calculating what we think is
due to WCI. We asked them to
consider a different type of agreement for subdivision lines and they are
amenable to doing so. It is one
where they will not fund it and look for us to collect fees and then pay them
back because we are just exchanging the same money. They will bill for the subdivision lines
and donate those to the District.
We will not charge subdivision connections for those lines and will be
working with District Counsel on the preparation of those agreements. We are trying to calculate the numbers
so we can say to WCI, “This fulfills all of our commitments over the prior years
for water and sewer lines.” We will
work with them on getting the proper transfer of title, ownership, deeds,
rights-of-way and all other instruments associated with fixed assets. They are amenable to this and I have no
trouble bringing up the tennis courts with them. We will bring this note back to
you.
We received interest from Mr. Cathwell, a resident of NSID, to fill the
vacant seat. I have copies of his
letter for consideration as well as a resume. District Counsel can inform you of the
requirements of the position. You
are not mandated to fill this position but you may consider it as you deem
appropriate. The vacant seat
expires in June of 2008.
Mr. Lyles stated this is the seat created by the resignation of Mr. Matt
Lauritzen and a resident of Parkland is required to fill this seat. They must also be a citizen of the
United States and the State of Florida.
Mr. Petty stated it is nice to have such interest from the
residents. I do not know if this
resident meets the requirements for living in Parkland but if he does not, I
request he be notified during the landowner’s election so he may participate as
we are changing the law.
Mr. Mendolia asked why do you want to be on this
Board?
Mr. Cathwell responded I do not have any experience serving on Boards but
I am hard working and open minded.
I felt it was time for me to get more involved in the District as my
youngest child is five years old and starting school. I have been an attorney for over five
years. This is an interest of
mine.
Mr. Mendolia asked are you a Real Estate Attorney?
Mr. Cathwell responded I handle personal injury, workers compensation and
real estate type cases. I also have
a real estate license. Is the
requirement of the resident living in Parkland a part of the law being
changed?
Mr. Petty responded for the Board to be properly represented there was a
requirement put into place for one of the Board members to live in Parkland,
another living in Coral Springs and one living in the entire
District.
Mr. Cathwell asked is this mandatory?
Mr. Petty responded the seats are assigned to those requirements. The vacant seat must be filled by
someone who lives in the City of Parkland.
Mr. Lyles stated this District is authorized and operates under a special
act of the Florida legislature in effect since the early 1970’s. It has always required one resident on
the Board living in Parkland, one from Coral Springs and one elected at
large. We filed a bill to convert
from a landowner’s election where only people who own property can vote to a
popular election where every registered voter can vote. In the initial version of the bill, we
did not have a requirement for anyone to live in a particular District or
city. When this bill came up for
consideration before the Legislative Delegation in Broward County, the City of
Parkland represented to the legislators and us they are concerned and thought we
should continue to have this requirement.
At the request of the Legislative Delegation, we inserted this mechanism
into our bill. If it passes and we
convert to a popular vote run by the Supervisor of Elections, the seats will
still have residency requirements, like a District in a City Council
election.
Mr. Cathwell stated I am fine with a temporary
appointment.
Mr. Lyles asked are you a resident of Parkland?
Mr. Cathwell responded I live in Wyndham Lakes.
Mr. Mendolia stated Wyndham Lakes is in Coral
Springs.
Mr. Lyles stated under the legislation establishing the District and
qualifications for members of the Board, you do not meet the requirements for
the open seat.
Mr. Cathwell asked is this only for the election to the
Board?
Mr. Lyles responded it is for an appointment as well. In order to hold the office, you have to
meet the requirements of the office.
Mr. Petty stated this does not mean you should stop your interest in the
District.
Mr. Mendolia asked did anyone recommend you?
Mr. Cathwell responded when I went to pay my water bill online, I saw the
minutes.
Mr. Mendolia stated we will hold onto your resume and see what
happens.
Mr. Petty stated no action is required by the
Board.
B.
Attorney’s Report
Mr. Lyles stated the legislature is in session as of this past week. So far they have done no harm to us with
our proposed bill. Of course, we
are monitoring this as it goes through the legislature. These bills tend to be picked up towards
the end of the session. We have not
run into any road blocks or obstacles and are moving along. This has been a quiet month on the legal
side.
C.
Engineer’s Report
There not being
any, the next item followed.
NINTH ORDER OF BUSINESS
Supervisor’s Requests and Audience Comments
Mr. Craven stated at the last meeting, the Board awarded the contract for
Parkland Village infrastructure to Florida Sewer & Water with
conditions. What is the
status? The contractor executed the
contracts and provided them to TOUSA Homes. I should be able to deliver them to the
Board tomorrow. We were originally
looking at a start date of March 19th. All of the permits from the city should
be in order by then. Can we move
forward? I know there is an issue
with the agreements.
Mr. Petty responded Mr. Craven is going to be at our meetings quite
frequently now. He has always been
instrumental in the development of NSID.
We have been working with him for some time. We do not foresee any
problems.
Mr. Craven stated I did not know if the Board took further
action.
Mr. Petty stated we are not asking for any further responsibilities or
changes. At the last meeting, we
looked at the funding agreements and reported the subdivision lines were going
to change. The rest are the same
because they go through bond funds.
Mr. Craven asked will we be able to obtain a Notice to
Proceed?
Mr. Lyles responded we had the agreements and permitting in place and
were ready to go but I raised the issue of whether there was a defined funding
source to make the payments called for under the contract. The Board previously authorized and
District Counsel validated the bond issue.
We were waiting for them to have a bond closing. Currently, there are no funds available
to make payments under those agreements until we have the bond closing, generate
the funds through the sale of the bonds and put the funds into the construction
fund account. This is the
outstanding issue.
Mr. Craven stated this is for the special assessment. There are three funding sources
involved; water and sewer, refunding and special
assessment.
Mr. Lyles stated as long as the manager is satisfied there is a source of
funds for the contract, there is nothing more to do as the Board authorized it
to be signed subject to identification of a funding
source.
Mr. Petty stated I agree with District Counsel, it is conditional upon
funds being available as stated in the agreement. You know as well as we do, there is an
outstanding bond. In regards to
whether or not we can move forward for bonds issued, the answer is I see no
reason why. I see no
restrictions. You are good about
coming to us and working with us on the issue of the subdivision lines and your
client described how they wished to go further. We have had nothing but a great working
relationship.
Mr. Craven stated as far as the special assessment bonds, those do not
exist.
Mr. Petty stated there is no entitlement unless they are
issued.
Mr. Craven stated TOUSA is obligated to fund this portion until those
bonds are available. I wanted to
make sure the other issues were covered.
Ms. Early stated the contractor signed the contracts, they are at TOUSA
Homes and then they come to the District for signature. Since we did not have a bond issue, we
needed those funding agreements to be in place. I do not know if TOUSA Homes signed
them. This is the funding mechanism
until the bonds are sold. This is
my understanding. There was one for
water and sewer and one for the roadwork.
Mr. Petty stated there are no projects management is considering. Of course, you are the one who sends
them to me. However, if they are
not covered by an existing funding source, the District has no funds available
of its own from a General or Enterprise Fund available to this outside of the
outstanding bond issue construction account.
Ms. Early stated on the last agenda, there were advance funding
agreements for different segments of the work because there was no bond
issue. Does TOUSA have
them?
Mr. Petty responded I cannot tell you if TOUSA has
them.
Ms. Early stated I am afraid to send them to you if these funding
agreements are not signed.
Mr. Petty asked what do you want for the Board to
consider?
Mr. Lyles responded the Board already did what it needs to do by awarding
the contract, subject to management identifying a specific funding source. The bonds are not closed so there are no
bond funds. Ms. Early is saying
before the construction contract is signed and issuing a Notice to Proceed, make
sure the fully executed advance funding agreements are there as a substitute for
the closing of the bonds. It has to
be one or the other because there are no other sources of funds.
Ms. Early stated I do not have a copy of them, which is why I am
concerned.
Mr. Petty stated we can talk after the meeting and get you a copy of
whatever you need.
Mr. Craven stated I have no problem assisting them.
Ms. Marie Ferngren stated I am with Florida Sewer & Water. We have a long standing relationship
with the Board as we have done a great deal of water, sewer and drainage
infrastructure at Heron Bay and Parkland Country Club. We appreciate all of the business. I spoke with Mr. Petty about this issue
but was not happy with his response.
I have invoices dating back to September. I do the work, your employee, Mr. Andy
Waypa approves my quantities and at the end of the month, gives me a sheet of
the approved quantities, which I attach to my invoice and provide to Ms.
Early. Her inspector then approves
it, Ms. Early does a split sheet and it is then sent to either Ms. Walker or Mr.
Petty’s attention. One invoice is
dated September 30th.
The letter was sent to NSID on October 3rd and another on
October 5th. What is the
process? I am getting involved in
more work at larger dollar amounts involving more suppliers. I do not feel it is realistic for a
supplier or contractor to wait five months for payment. I have not found out any information
other than Ms. Walker is no longer with this division. In the meantime, I have been dealing
with Ms. Kay Woodward but have not been able to get many answers from her. I am looking for direction from the
Board and Mr. Petty. What does the
Board consider to be reasonable?
Mr. Mendolia asked do we have any input in regards to paying
them?
Mr. Petty responded certainly the Board can make a policy on the
objectives. We have such a policy,
which is to pay the bills as quickly as possible. We had several issues with the handling
of diverse products and services we offer.
If it was a singular entity, we did a special audit internally and it
came back saying there must be multiple individuals working on this for checks
and balances because if your accountant gets sick or leaves, we have
problems. Ms. Walker, who is
considered to be a chief asset of the District, is currently working on what we
consider to be our biggest priority, which is the $100 million in fixed assets
we built over the past decade and trying to organize this into a manageable
system. In the meantime, we tried
to produce the checks and balances we deem to be required of a public
agency. I notified all vendors
including Florida Water & Sewer of this procedure in order to protect the
District’s interest for due diligence and send out correct payments as soon as
possible.
Mr. Mendolia asked is there a problem with their request for
payment?
Mr. Petty responded there have been problems with request for payments
where they had to go back and be re-assigned to the proper contract or there
needed to be a Change Order from the Board or other material changes. We have no problem with the quality of
their work. We are talking about
due diligence and the processing of millions of dollars. We believe our checks and balances are
reasonable, which comes from our 40 years experience with government agencies
accounting and auditing.
Mr. Mendolia stated we never had this problem
before.
Mr. Petty stated we always had an invoice, which went unpaid for three to
four months.
Ms. Ferngren stated we have been in business with the District for 12 to
13 years. The average wait time for
invoices to be processed is 60 days.
When things were running smoothly, they were processed in 45 days. However, there was no occasion where we
had anything going over 90 days in the last 18 months. On the rare occasions when we approached
60 days, I was able to find out why. This is the first time I am hearing about
problems with my invoices. I do not
want Florida Sewer & Water to get a reputation of not paying their suppliers
and subcontractors but at the same time, five months is a long time to wait and
not have a concrete answer.
Mr. Petty stated it is not standard for every invoice to wait five months
until they are paid. If an invoice
is five months old, there has to be a reason for the delay, whether it was lost,
stolen, misplaced or not paid. We
can investigate and provide due diligence, which is what we are currently
doing. However, to imply payments
always takes five months to process is incorrect and I do not want the Board to
have this impression.
Mr. Mendolia stated she said this one is taking five months. Prior invoices were paid within 45 to 60
days.
Mr. Petty stated on average, it is within a 30 day time
frame.
Mr. Mendolia stated then the ones she has are problem
ones.
Ms. Ferngren stated I spoke with WCI and the process is for Mr. Petty to
sign off on the invoice and is then submitted to WCI for advance funding. Invoices presented to Mr. Petty’s office
on February 1st still have not approached WCI for advance
funding. This is where my concern
is. We are at five weeks and WCI
needs an additional three to four weeks to process them. They do not pay me directly; they pay
NSID. NSID usually takes another
week to pay me. At best, we are
already looking at an additional four weeks, which puts me nine weeks out from
the date of my invoice. The problem
is when I spoke with Ms. Woodward; no answer could be given to me. Therefore, I cannot respond to my
suppliers with proper information.
Mr. Petty stated we have a vendor who wants us to commit to a time
certain when we can pay bills and due diligence will not allow me to give you a
date. Even if the Board directed me
to, I am afraid I could not provide one because of the due diligence issue. If there is a problem with the bill, it
is going to take longer than 30 days.
We try to pay the bills as soon as we can through our checks and balance
system, which we think is not unreasonable. It involves a fairly complicated system;
involving funding from WCI, the engineer or two contractors on a specific
project. We may be partners with
WCI if the invoice is for water management and roads. The Board sees the paperwork every
month. I cannot tell you how many
bills I get for less than $5,000.
The invoices have to go through due diligence. I cannot give a better answer than
this.
Mr. Mendolia asked are there any other companies in the same predicament
as Florida Sewer & Water?
Mr. Petty responded they are unique.
Ms. Ferngren stated there are also outstanding invoices with Triple R.
Paving. We are the only two
contractors doing the majority of WCI’s work.
Mr. Petty stated I can remove the checks and balances. Right now, my signature is required on
those documents and there is no way I am signing documents without going through
due diligence. However, my
signature can be removed and the engineer can be authorized to sign
requisitions. We can then do the
checks and balances at their office.
Mr. Mendolia stated it has been working well until
now.
Mr. Petty stated when there was a single entity of Ms. Walker, the checks
and balances were not being done.
Part of the in-house audit was to check this process because this was our
determination as your manager and we had the auditors independently do
this. They came back with the same
response. Ms. Walker has been here
for a very long time and we cherish her but this work has gotten so complicated,
I had to put three people into the position of doing proper checks and
balances. Even though Ms. Walker
worked hard for us, she was not able to do the proper checks and balances. Instituting those and doing the work to
the degree we wanted to and responding as quickly as we think the vendors
deserved, took this many people. We
think we are responsive. Without
those checks and balances, I cannot sign requisitions and
invoices.
Ms. Ferngren stated I do the work and it is approved by an inspector who
is an NSID employee. We are not
going over the contract quantities.
Mr. Petty stated this is why we had Mr. Waypa out there for the last 15
years checking quantities.
Ms. Ferngren stated I want the opportunity to know when there is a
problem so it can be resolved in a timely manner.
Mr. Petty stated we tried to convey to the vendor we are doing due
diligence. This is not us trying to
pick on them. We are just trying to
manage the funds of the District professionally.
Mr. Mendolia stated with 15 years of service, if there is a problem, tell
her what the problem is. She will
have to wait.
Ms. Ferngren asked is it reasonable to not be told what the problem
is?
Mr. Mendolia responded no.
If you have a problem you have to say what it is.
Ms. Ferngren stated I request Mr. Petty say, “Your invoice is being held
up because…”. I can then approach
Ms. Early to re-do it.
Mr. Petty stated it is not going to be Mr. Petty who is doing this. It is going to be the accountant or one
of the three employees who took over for Ms. Walker. If the issue has to do with the
engineer, we will not share this with the vendor because we do not wish to put
any blame on someone else. We are
going to say it has been pushed back in the process. If the invoice comes to us three months
after the job is completed because it was on someone’s desk or a quantity has
changed, this does not constitute an emergency on our part. We are still going through due
diligence. If I have the issue and
the answer, I will relay it to you.
If it is in process, I will tell you. When you ask me when it is going to come
up, I will tell you, “Once it has gone through due
diligence”.
Ms. Ferngren stated as a business person, this is an unreasonable answer
because I am responsible to pay my suppliers.
Mr. Petty stated I find this unbelievable since you are a contractor who
has to work with other agencies who are far more complex with checks and
balances going way beyond what we do.
Ms. Ferngren stated I do not understand the additional checks and
balances. I am being informed by
Ms. Woodward; invoices are sitting on desks and not being processed. Is there a way we can communicate so I
have an idea, once it passes through Ms. Woodward and it goes to Mr. Petty’s
desk, what is reasonable to expect?
Mr. Petty responded the timeline is difficult and I cannot guarantee
it. As your manager, I work on
other districts. This is part of
the reason why the price is what it is.
If I am working on another district, I can be out of the office for two
or three days. Sometimes I have
invoices sitting on my desk.
Mr. Mendolia asked how many invoices are you referring
to?
Ms. Ferngren responded I have two invoices from September, one from
January and five from the beginning of February. The older invoices are not large amounts
and are not affecting many people.
The more current invoices are for larger amounts to where I am dealing
with 10 suppliers and sub-contractors who I need to answer to. Telling them the answer Mr. Petty is
giving to me is very difficult.
Mr. Mendelson stated according to the financials as of February
26th, they paid a $31,000 bill.
Mr. Mendolia stated there was another invoice for $16,564.
Ms. Ferngren stated I have not received those checks. I spoke with Ms. Woodward on Monday and
she informed me she was waiting for information so she could pay
me.
Mr. Lyles stated this was the report on checks cut and
sent.
Mr. Petty stated I will be glad to look into it. We are not intentionally keeping their
money.
Mr. Mendolia stated Ms. Ferngren has a valid point. We show two invoices as
paid.
Mr. Petty stated if she would like to know where the checks are, I am
sure we can track them. If there is
an issue with the mail or they came back to us, I am sure we can give her this
response. Telling her what the
issue is when it is known, we will gladly do. However, giving her a date certain on
when she will receive an answer is something I cannot do.
Mr. Mendolia asked will the five invoices be in the same category of
problem invoices?
Mr. Petty responded yes, since they are applied to the same
contract. We can look at the
balance of the contract. If we
reviewed the contract and do not have a change order on file, we will contact
the engineer and request the change order.
If we do not have the change order, typically the engineer will come back
and write a change order for the Board’s consideration. In any case, the bill is going to sit
there. This has happened in the
past. We do not have a system of
holding vendors bills above and beyond any other vendor’s bills. The process of bond funds and funding
agreements is a complex one. The
checks and balances we installed are the bare bones minimum and they take
time. You just saw two final change
orders for the same contract today.
We knew what it was for because we were able to talk to the
engineer. For the items we were not
involved with, coming to us from a contract assigned two years ago, we have to
stop what we are doing and verify.
Every once in awhile, we will bring to the Board a sheet showing what our
balance is. This sheet takes a
great deal of work and checks and balances. In the past, Ms. Walker relied 95% of
the time on Ms. Early’s recommendation to pay. I am not comfortable with this while my
name is on it as Ms. Early is not an accountant; she is an engineer. If my name is on the invoice, I am going
to make sure it is done the way it should be. If my name is not on it, I am sure we
can expedite the process by relying on the engineer.
Mr. Mendolia stated this sounds like an individual case but she also
mentioned Triple R. Paving. We do
not want the contractors coming to us and saying we owe them money, unless there
is a real problem. We should have
open communication. They all cannot
be in the same category.
Mr. Mendelson stated she may only be holding a part of what has not been
paid or maybe the check was cut and not sent out.
Mr. Petty stated it would not be typical. She did not contact me to ask these
questions and I did not know she was coming before you with this
issue.
Ms. Ferngren stated Mr. Petty asked me not to contact you. He told me in our last phone
conversation, if I had any issues to talk with the Board. I chose not to approach you last month
because I spoke with Ms. Walker and knew a $300,000 check was being issued. However, when I received the check, I
realized there were still two lingering invoices. This is why I decided to present myself
today. I apologize for not giving
you proper notice.
Mr. Mendolia stated see what you can do for Ms.
Ferngren.
Mr. Petty stated right now, I want to get my name off of their form. I have never been accused of holding
anybody up or not being able to count.
I do not like the concept.
Mr. Mendolia stated no one is accusing you. If they ask a question, answer
it.
Mr. Petty stated this is the only client I have where I sign
requisitions. If this is necessary,
I am going to provide due diligence.
I have seen enough cases on these requisitions to where it is a good
thing we do. If a vendor comes in
and says the due diligence we are providing is causing them angst, while I am
sympathetic to their concern, I do not know if I can make any changes. When they demand time schedules I cannot
provide, I do not know what to tell them.
If they ask for or demand such statements and I cannot give them an
answer, the only thing I can do is defer them to the Board, even though I hate
to do so. I want to be able to
solve their problem. If they will
not accept my answer or the policies I instituted in the District, it becomes a
Board decision. I will be happy to
work with all the vendors, but I have been working with them. Our offices are always open. Ms. Ferngren is able to talk to Ms.
Woodward or any of the other accountants.
She was able to talk with Ms. Walker, up until the time she took over the
new process of fixed assets. The
issue of doing checks and balances has been contentious between the two of us,
since we implemented it. I find it
to be a benefit to the District.
Mr. Mendolia stated I agree, except if an invoice is six months old. We need to pay them as soon as we
can. I know you are busy but make
them understand you are assisting them.
Ms. Larned stated we have been looking at this process for quite some
time. Frankly the checks and
balances were not in place prior to a few months ago. The reason why it worked smoothly is
because there were no checks and balances.
We had instances where I had to research to make sure there were adequate
funds in the account. Going
forward, we brought in someone who on a project assignment basis began to work
closely in the existing system to determine where the weaknesses were. This was a result of the special
audit. As a result, we tried to
institute new procedures bringing forward those checks and balances. However, we ran into resistance from the
vendors. It has to do with the bond
funds, advance funding agreements and very large dollar amounts for the
projects.
What complicates this is there are shared contracts, contracts split
between different entities and all the paperwork is not in one place. When we instituted these new checks and
balances, we had to go back and re-formulate the prior history to bring the old
projects forward. This is going to
be fairly time consuming and we work diligently to bring this into focus as
quickly as possible. We felt going
forward, the communication lines between the engineer and the vendors did not
need to be disturbed. We understand
the pressure the vendors are under to pay their suppliers, but what is more
important is the public trust perspective and our fiduciary responsibilities to
make sure those public dollars are being spent as so ordered by the Board. It has taken us some time to do so. You have certainly given us the
direction and approval to move forward.
We believe this will get faster as we move forward but we have a great
deal of work to clean up.
Mr. Mendolia stated this is the way it should be.
Mr. Petty stated hopefully the troubles we had in the past are behind
us.
Ms. Ferngren stated I will leave my card. If you have any information, it will be
greatly appreciated. I need to
inform my suppliers.
Mr. Petty stated I do not know what information I can give you that you
can give to your suppliers.
Ms. Ferngren stated I was informed by Ms. Woodward; the paperwork is
sitting on your desk waiting for your signature. When you sign them and they are heading
to WCI for my advance funding, please call me.
Ms. Larned stated I will be happy to look into this matter and speak with
Ms. Woodward. I can guarantee you
they are not sitting on Mr. Petty’s desk.
If they are sitting on Ms. Woodward’s desk, it is because she is waiting
for information from either the engineer or you. She has come to me with briefings if not
every day, every other day. When
they are ready to go before the District Manager, they will but because of this
time schedule, they do not sit on his desk. They have not completed due diligence
until this step is met.
Mr. Mendolia stated Ms. Woodward may have
mis-spoke.
Ms. Ferngren stated I appreciate your aggressiveness and I can only
respond with the answer I was given by your employees.
Ms. Larned stated Ms. Ferngren has been very aggressive and while I
respect this, we are trying to protect the public’s interest. I do not want to sit here and see this
dog fight. This is
inappropriate. I will be happy to
speak to Ms. Ferngren beyond this Board meeting.
Ms. Ferngren stated I appreciate it.
Mr. Mendolia stated thank you.
We have to consider what Ms. Ferngren said.
Mr. Petty stated I had to give her the option of coming to the
Board.
Mr. Mendolia stated whatever Ms. Woodward told her, she should not have
said.
Mr. Petty stated I am sure she told Ms. Ferngren the next step was for
the paperwork to be on the manager’s desk.
Ms. Larned stated I think she mis-interpreted and I am more than happy to
work through those issues with her.
TENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS
Approval of Requisitions and Invoices
There being no questions or comments,
On MOTION by Mr. Mendelson seconded by
Mr. Mendolia with all in favor the requisitions and invoices for the month of
February were approved.
ELEVENTH ORDER OF BUSINESS
Adjournment
There being no further business,
On MOTION by Mr. Mendolia seconded by Mr.
Mendelson with all in favor the meeting was
adjourned.
Steve Mendelson
Salvatore J. Mendolia
Secretary
President